I don’t like or respect Jefferies, but he’s a compromise I could live with

Why should any of us “live with” a compromise when we dont have to?

Call anyone anything, no one cares. Just stop your tedious finger wagging.

Document it as your groups operating principle and get the team to sign off on it. Point them to the doc.

I think a french style general strike would be better.

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Assuming the outcomes of the midterm election meant nothing at all to the centrist dems, then sure. Just like they failed to learn a single damn thing from losing the 2024 presidential. As long as the aipac checks keep flowing, all is well, is what you are saying?

And yet Jeffries is minority leader Now. Today. He doesnt need to wait until Jan 3 to do his effing job in this vote, did he. And he didnt do it. The one “playing games” here is you.

Or at least one thats not utterly pacifist and shame based. Our system knows exactly how to drown pacifist causes. They have had a lot of practice.

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They dont worry about losing court battles because they dont personally pay the monetary penatlies when they lose. The American taxpayers do, and they dont give a crap about us.

DFL is progressive, and Klobachar is centrist. Theres a lot of open conflict about it. https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/06/01/sources-sen-amy-klobuchar-threatened-to-leave-dfl-convention-during-challenge-from-left/

They really do need to formally kick her to the curb, she’s pure poison.

“vote blue no matter who in the general” is how we get outcomes like this one. Well done.

The 11 dems who were needed to pass Massies impeachment of Hegseth didnt show up to work that day either. Impeaching Hegseth and doing their job to hold republicans responsible for murder and high crimes just wasnt important to them.

These traitor-Dems need to lose their seats at the next possible chance.

Melanie Stansbury (New Mexico) Marilyn Strickland (Washington) Julia Brownley (California) Lou Correa (California) Laura Gillen (New York) Steven Horsford (Nevada) Jonathan Jackson (Illinois) Nancy Pelosi (California) Brittany Pettersen (Colorado) Haley Stevens (Michigan) Frederica Wilson (Florida)

Thats ultimately for the good. Your replies are counterproductive and just prolong the problems we all have with our government.

So stick with the status quo centrists because thats such a winning thing, is what you are saying eh habitualcynic.
So bold. Because centrism was winning so hard, right.

agreed. If they stay we lose the voters then the presidency and congress again in 2028.

Its not about ideas, its about aipac funding for the entire system, both parties.

We cant just “have hope”. We have to do something about it to get it to exist. Hope is often used as an excuse to wait for the status quo to solve our problems with no effort and we are way past that. No one is coming to help any of us. Not the Democratic partyt leadership for sure, unless we MAKE them. The time for this sort of anger was really before the midterm, but now is second best.

I think the problem with our progressivism is its integrated passivity. It refuses to give itself permission to act on its own to forcefully to establish the future it wants. We beg and implre. We hold signs. We write letters and emails to those who have money in their pockets paid by our enemies. We try to shame the shameless, which only makes conservatives learn to be even more shameless. We count on some “decent people” to eventually appear and take charge somehow.

Schumer wouldnt betray dem voters, right.

I truly wish I could be adorably optimistic. Seriously though, the economy wasnt great under Biden but it wasnt even close to as grim as it is now, and Biden/Harris AND congressional dems got thoroughly trounced in that election. Repubs took the presidency, and the house and the senate. I think there were multiple issues at play, with the economy being one of many things rather than the one reason Harris lost. No one can prove it but I bet if Harris had just called the Israeli war on gaza a genocide and signalled support for health care reform I bet she would have had the votes to win.