This whole exchange has been a horrible wake-up call.

It’s horrible.

well yeah, i don’t support the war, rearmament or US/NATO integration. frankly i find the EU to be a repulsive and ultimately harmful institution in its own right as well. the vassals in charge of my/our countries don’t seem to agree with me. which really blows my mind, because reality doesn’t seem to align with their plans for saving the EU. then again, the Finns have began admitting Ukraine is losing and called Putin presumably to beg for mercy, as they kept stating their undying support for the fascists.

The European political elite throwing money they don’t have to desperately keep their proxy war against Russia going, in order to create a warfighting force with industry they don’t have supply chains they do not control using Usian energy they don’t have money for. This is fucking stupid, I hate living here.

Capital has been consolidated further.

Wikipedia is an inherently biased pro-Western source. BBC is an inherently biased pro-Western source. The UN is an inherently biased pro-Western source. The United States Government is an inherently biased pro-Western source. The OSCE is an inherently biased pro-Western source. The Conversation is just a publication, that uses the UN report as its (inherently biased, pro-Western) source. The UN report itself provides no evidence for its claims. Throughout your sources is evident that no-one bothered to ask the Russians what’s up with these allegations. So I’d concur this as whataboutism, as well as cope and seethe. Keep crying, fascist.

ding ding ding ding! homophobia from lemmy liberals, get it right here people!

‘Law and order’ is a phrase mouthed by hypocrites to command the obedience of cowards. The capitalist class buys law as it does labor, using the one to fleece the other, and what it means by “law and order” is cringing submission to slavery.

• E.V. Debs

The pigs can cry all they want about the attackers being motivated by “extreme leftist ideology”. The liberal states in Europe have ran their course. They cannot produce an improved existence for the working masses, only for the bourgeoisie. The cops, the laws and the whole of European society now exists (and has existed for a while) to protect and elevate the rights of the bourgeoisie – the class of people who own the means of production. Once those interests contradict – when the masses protest against the cuts in welfare caused by the neoliberal ideology of the bourgeoisie – the state’s monopoly on violence is turned against the masses to protect the rights of the bourgeoisie, whose class interests dictate the whole of society. When the state is unwilling (or unable) to provide concessions for the protesters (masses) demands, the police’s only resort is an initial show of violence to hopefully force the protesters to withdraw. When this doesn’t work the possibility of violence grows. Only once the state is willing to offer those concessions the violence and protesting can end, but when the interests contradict again (i.e. when the state grows unwilling or unable to provide concessions again) the violence will come also. One must solve the contradiction of state’s interests vs. the masses’ interests to solve the issue of societal tumult.

“What are they, a bunch of ASIANS?”

The narrative the Euro elites control is deeply unserious. The tabloids (or yellow press, here the shittiest two rags have advertisements in supermarkets in literally yellow print) have been nothing but PUTIN PUTIN PUTIN for the past 12 years, and even before that he was a recurring character, along with shit like “THIS REGULAR BEHAVIOR CAN BE A SYMPTOM OF A MUCH MORE SERIOUS CONDITION”. But that’s just par for the course in fuck ass “journalism” i guess. They must be thanking Baal and/or Moloch daily for Russia’s existence, an easy scapegoat for their own inefficacy.

This article is from April, and they’ve been focusing on blaming Russia for absolutely everything. Increased militarism and austerity policies? Russia’s fault. Population rioting deteriorating living conditions and unaffordable cost of living? It’s the Russians again. Unflushed toilets? Believe it or not, also Russia.

Just as well for a genocide-loving entity-supporter such as the Finnish government. Damn russia keeps shitting in our toilets so we gotta get some anti-personnel mines and bring NATO-nukes on our soil.

Fuck the bougies, no war but class war.

lmao, even. most westerners can’t accept our systems to actually being the worst ones, so they accept every accusation against “the other”. oh the cognitive gymnastics

“oh well if it’s the far-right and the center-right it can’t be discriminatory legislature!” as if the EU isn’t the problem, the thing itself that readily gives all the power for fascism and denies power for socialism.

fucking called it when the first batch of millions started rolling in. not that it was too difficult to see. disappointing to see many open source folks being like “who cares?”, which is just the head-in-sand reaction i’m used to encountering when talking about fascist politics with locals. it seems to me that the users who are ready to welcome large amounts of institutional capital into open source projects don’t understand that it comes with strings attached. maybe they think more money = more eye candy = growing userbase = better video game support on linux? idk, hate to see fascism creep into every aspect of my personal interests

“FOX told me the Iranian Ayatollah PERSONALLY killed ONE HUNDRED GORILLION protesters!”

There might even be a stronger push from some members to (at least try) mend their relationships with Russia. But then that happening would necessitate giving up on arming Ukraine, I doubt Russia would be agreeable without that happening first. I suspect that the current status quo in the EU wouldn’t agree to this, because it seems EU members are sworn on re-establishing their economies through rearming themselves sans US, and rearmament will most likely just lead to more war. But then again the French and the Spanish (at least) are in the midst of mass protests atm, and the popular concensus on arming Ukraine/war in general (which has only meant increased austerity policies at home) could be turning more widely, though I’ll admit that I haven’t got any proof that this shift is actually happening. But people will always be against austerity.

Then again, things are always in flux. The current Ukrainian state might just kick the bucket during/after the coming winter, which would change things here vis-a-vis Russia. Putin will eventually have to leave office in Russia, and his successor might be even more hardline with even less trust towards the west, or an even softer handed liberal ready to open up Russia’s markets again. China (and Russia too) keeps working with the global south, enabling them to use their own material recourses to kick out the western neocolonial powers and gain some actual independence, for the first time in a looooong while. Iran is changing the picture in West Asia and the Zionist entity is losing favor among the youth globally, the same folks that are protesting in France and elsewhere. Green energy transformation is a necessity for human survival, and China is leading in its development (there’s been news about their newest nuclear fusion strides, though I’m not a nuclear physicist and can’t tell how far they realistically are to making it an actual, usable piece of engineering). All the while there is a spectre haunting the world. The spectre of communism.

Interesting times ahead for us all, I think. Hopefully we can make meaningful changes in Europe soon.

China’s Commerce Ministry has stressed that the EU should address its own economic problems and resolve disagreements through dialogue.

Isn’t that the goddam truth? I swear all the politicians in this forsaken bloc just spend all their days thinking of ways to blame someone else for the problems they made happen! Spineless, rich bastards. None of the economic problems the bourgeois politicians create threathen their way of life in any way. They don’t care about the people they claim to serve, they don’t give a shit about our well-being, our security, our future. They only exist to serve capital, and that is everything they care about.

I’m so fucking done with these fucking clowns still pretending this bloc has any weight of its own globally. Without the US there to back the EU up, it ain’t got nothing. This shit will hopefully rip itself apart fast. Shit is so over.

yes, that’s it! pure-blooded, blind and unquestioning patriotism is what will stop European infrastructure grinding to a halt and threathening the lives of countless marginalized folks, especially in rural areas! WE’LL JUST TURN THE WHEELS OF ENERGY OURSELVES, LIKE IN A HUGE MOUSEWHEEL! SLAVA UKRAINI, I AM ADOLF HITLER! do you are have the stupid, fuck face?

That’s also possible yeah. I do have a bad tendency of assuming the worst of my fellow citizens.