Until the last Ukrainian and the last (working class) euro.
The European political elite throwing money they don’t have to desperately keep their proxy war against Russia going, in order to create a warfighting force with
industry they don’t havesupply chains they do not control using Usian energy they don’t have money for. This is fucking stupid, I hate living here.It’s obviously not OUR proxy war.
Only for the US benefit.
Like it’s not OUR proposal but one decided on by our EU vassal traitor politicians.In fact, knee capping Europe appears to be an explicit goal here. The problem from American perspective is that Europe has natural economic interests aligned with China and Russia. The US can’t really offer anything of its own to counter that. So, if things were allowed to develop peacefully, the economic gravity would continue to shift to the east, and a political realignment would eventually follow. That would be a strategic disaster from American perspective, so it’s better to just burn Europe down instead.
That would be a strategic disaster from American perspective, so it’s better to just burn Europe down instead.
And what better kindling than liberalism?
indeed
The US can’t really offer anything of its own to counter that
Ah, but it can, for sure! It can offer bags of cash for those Atlantist politicians, it can offer the threat of still having active and running military bases inside Europe. It can offer Operation Gladio 2.0 and much more!
That’s right, Europeans are about to get Latin American treatment.
I can’t even gloat about it. It’s so stupid and so many people will die
Nobody expected the end of new European dream would be so easy, led by Judas goats into the slaughter.
Decades of propaganda convinced people that Russia was a gas station with nukes, and it was easy to sell the narrative that the west just had to blow hard enough for Russian house of cards to fall apart. Initially, there was also a lot of buffer available, so the public didn’t really feel the effects of the war for the first couple of years. So, the war was being treated as an abstract thing that people didn’t connect with their day to day lives, and that coupled with the deep hatred of Russia in Europe made it easy to drum up support for draining Europe to fund the war. Now, the buffer has been run dry, and people are starting to realize there is a material cost to this whole adventure, but it might be too late to do anything about it. The damage has already been done, and Europe is going to be hobbled for decades to come even if the current regimes are overthrown.
well yeah, i don’t support the war, rearmament or US/NATO integration. frankly i find the EU to be a repulsive and ultimately harmful institution in its own right as well. the vassals in charge of my/our countries don’t seem to agree with me. which really blows my mind, because reality doesn’t seem to align with their plans for saving the EU. then again, the Finns have began admitting Ukraine is losing and called Putin presumably to beg for mercy, as they kept stating their undying support for the fascists.
which really blows my mind, because reality doesn’t seem to align with their plans for saving the EU.
Well that shouldn’t blow your mind since they do not want to save the EU, politicians lie.
I said the same thing on another subject where someone called them stupid for trying something that would never work the way they supposedly intended.
They may act stupid but they know exactly what they’re doing and what the results will be.
We should not let them get away with the excuse of naivety or stupidity.
That is not how they got to where they are.It’s horrible.
unfortunately it will most likely get a lot more horrible.
This whole exchange has been a horrible wake-up call.
We are here to inform each other.
It can’t all be pleasant.
But at least you’re better informed than the propaganda drinkers.
We’ll be OK ;)
